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            Building tomorrow’s telecommunications network 
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            Raj Savoor of AT&T Labs 
			discusses the generational changes spurring 5G innovation.
 The current 5G evolution in network connectivity is expected to 
			drive unprecedented demands for bandwidth, reliability, and 
			security. However, a network of this magnitude and robustness 
			doesn’t pop up overnight and enterprises and consumers are just 
			beginning to realize the myriad use cases a 5G network can support.
 
 For example, consider the increased number of connected devices in a 
			house like smart thermostats, security cameras, tablets, 
			smartwatches, and mobile phones, of course. Raj Savoor, the vice 
			president of network analytics and automation at AT&T Labs explains, 
			“Currently we estimate the average consumer home footprint has about 
			13 connected devices, including mobile and other devices.” And 
			although that sounds like a large number, he continues to explain 
			the real scale, “That's going to increase to 30 to 40 devices over 
			the next five years, so a really big increase.” And the real 
			challenge he continues to explain is that, “This growth needs 
			advanced network architectures to support, manage and provide fast, 
			secure, and reliable services.”
 
 Bandwidth will also increase five times in the next five years, 
			according to Savoor, as consumers adopt immersive interactive 
			applications. Immersive experiences also require lower latency and 
			jitter, and a lot more security and reliability. For a company like 
			AT&T that supports a large existing network, building the next 
			generation network requires an incremental approach. In fact, AT&T’s 
			5G network has been years in the making. “We look at it as a 
			journey. There are a lot of steps that we've taken over the past few 
			years to build on it, and we have prepared for the next step,” says 
			Savoor.
 
 And as businesses and consumers transition to a 5G world, AT&T keeps 
			looking ahead. “We are thinking about the next 20 and 50 years. 
			Network investments take a long time, and we want to make those 
			investments with economics in mind, but also very much ensuring the 
			most reliable network offering,” says Savoor.
 
 Transcript
 Laurel Ruma: From MIT Technology Review, I'm Laurel Ruma and this is 
			Business Lab, the show that helps business leaders make sense of new 
			technologies coming out of the lab and into the marketplace.
 
 Our topic today is architecting networks. From cell tower to device, 
			5G is helping connect people and spark innovation with a reliable, 
			fast, and scalable network. This means big opportunities for 
			consumers and enterprises.
 
 Two words for you: next, next-generation.
 
 My guest is Raj Savoor, the vice president of network analytics and 
			automation at AT&T Labs. This podcast is produced in partnership 
			with Infosys Cobalt.
 
 Welcome Raj.
 
 Raj: Thank you, Laurel. I'm delighted to be here with you today.
 
 Laurel: AT&T Labs has a long history of innovation. How is it now 
			building that next generation of networks in a cloud-driven, 
			digital-driven world?
 
 Raj: Great question, and it's something we spend a lot of time 
			thinking about. Every technology turn is different. We're certainly 
			leaning into this change to 5G networks and a lot of increased fiber 
			penetration in our networks, leaning back on our culture of 
			innovation, of our history and legacy, and particularly adapting to 
			change as we've gone through so many generational changes. It is a 
			unique period. We are investing both in other 5G wireless network 
			and at the same time expanding our footprint of fiber optics further 
			into the network, closer to our consumers and businesses.
 
 We are seeing rapid adoption and unprecedented demand for bandwidth 
			from our both consumer and enterprise customers. Usage for example, 
			in the home, is increasing. It will increase five times over the 
			next five years. We saw some of that during the pandemic. The number 
			of devices in the home are rapidly increasing. Currently, we 
			estimate the average consumer home footprint has about 13 connected 
			devices, including mobile and other devices. That's going to 
			increase to 30 to 40 devices over the next five years, so a really 
			big increase. This growth needs advanced network architectures to 
			support, manage and provide fast, secure, and reliable services.
 
 Our approach is evolutionary. That's primarily because we are an 
			existing, very large network that has gone through so many 
			generational changes. When we use the next-generation architecture, 
			we have to be cognizant of the existing infrastructure and work that 
			incrementally, so it's not like a brand-new, greenfield, overlay 
			build. It is that incremental approach, and it's never a single 
			switch. We look at it as a journey. There are a lot of steps that 
			we've taken over the past few years to build on it, and we have 
			prepared for the next step.
 
 Laurel: Some of those steps include making that network more stable 
			and reliable and with great coverage to touch all those households, 
			right?
 
 Raj: Correct. I think the foundation comes with our connectivity. To 
			make sure coverage and reach of the network, be it the radio 
			frequency coverage or the fiber optics to the edge begins there, but 
			it doesn't stop there. There is a lot of additional elements to 
			managing the reliability as well as attributes of that complete 
			customer experience. We are shifting from just single dimensional 
			views of connectivity to an experiential and secure and how we 
			define reliability in a much broader context. That needs a lot more 
			architectural forethought in how we design and deliver ultimately.
 
 Laurel: What will that shift to 5G mean for innovation for consumers 
			and enterprises?
 
 Raj: Just to maybe step back, in our past generations of change and 
			mobile talk wireless, in the first few generations it was all about 
			mobility and basic connectivity for voice. Then we went to messaging 
			and early data. Then when we went from 3G to LTE or the full 
			generation, it was about speed.
 
 As we look at where we are in terms of where the customers are 
			driving us at 5G, that is all about immersive experiences. This 
			requires lower latencies, which is the actual time it takes for a 
			video to start or a download to begin of your next application, or 
			an interactive session that may be in high definition or in AR or VR 
			mode. It also needs lower jitter, which means lower variability, in 
			that experience. You also need a lot more security and reliability. 
			The security because a personal device is basically an extension of 
			our persona. Many of our lives are entwined in that device. So, 
			privacy information, protection of that device, protection of the 
			data in the device, become equally important over the network 
			channel.
 
 Those are the requirements that our customers are demanding and that 
			can really be met in the 5G network architecture. Besides the 
			connectivity capabilities, it is bringing the cloud-native 
			application platforms closer to the edge of the network. It's an 
			architecture that does require a use of a lot more automation and 
			infusion of AI- and ML-driven approaches to provide that customer 
			experience that is needed.
 
 At the end of the day, we expect the consumers to be able to consume 
			more of those immersive interactive applications rendered, say, in 
			the cloud. This could be in a venue, it could be in their homes, it 
			could be when they're using a 5G-powered wearable device. It could 
			be in a connected car running in a smart city.
 
 When you look at all of these different use cases, there's also a 
			need for seamless transitions from 5G to WiFi, and so on. That is 
			part of the overall network design and thinking that goes into our 
			perspective. Again, security is also paramount. We constantly hear 
			from our customers how important that is, and that is a cornerstone 
			of how we are approaching it. AI- and ML-based approaches allow us 
			to provide these threat analytics and security for that experience.
 
 Laurel: Yeah, that's a really good point. The network is now much 
			bigger than it ever was. It reaches to the edge, which is every 
			single device that uses a connection, pretty much. When you are on 
			your cell phone at a football or soccer game, you expect to be able 
			to look up scores or watch the latest play. You also tend to expect 
			that real-time access to that information, to those video streams, 
			to the data. That is one example, but we're also talking about 
			industrial uses as well. My favorite is reaching out to oil 
			platforms or planes or ships. The edge could be so many different 
			nodes that we actually have to broaden our definition of what 
			network means, correct?
 
 Raj: Absolutely. We certainly see the adoption of 5G and the edge 
			technologies beginning at the enterprise. I think the enterprise and 
			industrial adoption then is driving it for the consumer. Different 
			generations of technologies have either begun at the consumer or at 
			the enterprise level. Because of the adoption of edge cloud 
			capabilities, what we refer to as multi-access edge compute, 5G is 
			effectively bringing cloud compute, storage, and analytics 
			capabilities and applications closer to those industrial 
			applications. This is an area that we've really focused on for 
			multiple years.
 
 AT&T has a 5G innovation studio where we bring in our enterprise 
			customers and their problem statements and use cases. We bring in 
			startups and other partners to put together solutions to address 
			those blind spots or problem statements in connectivity and 
			applications. Those frequently make use of industrial internet of 
			things. It's where automation and industrial robots need hyper 
			precision on location, and the network actually enables that.
 
 Also, there's a lot of video analytics to do assessment of safety 
			issues within locations. The video analytics can be run very, very 
			close to the industrial application and provide that real-time 
			feedback we talked about in the consumer space. It allows quality of 
			service and speed and low latency of 5G as well as security compared 
			to unlicensed spectrum and other network technologies as an enabler 
			for those industrial use cases.
 
 Drones are another emerging area. There's a need for autonomous 
			control with low latency. Again, the network is an enabler natively 
			for that. Yeah, we do see adoption across various verticals: 
			healthcare, transportation, manufacturing, smart cities—a lot of 
			sensor, network-driven opportunities.
 
 Laurel: One of those examples is FirstNet, a way for first 
			responders to connect during an emergency where other lines of 
			communications may be down.
 
 Raj: Yes, it's an area we are very proud to support and be the 
			network for our first responders. There's a FirstNet authority that 
			manages this network. It's a nationwide dedicated platform 
			purposefully built for the first responders and really the extended 
			public safety community that includes our healthcare system. The 
			mission is fairly unique, as you can imagine, relative to consumers 
			or enterprises that have their needs. We were able to bring all 
			those requirements into a common platform.
 
 It does have an element that is different where, from a 
			mission-critical perspective, there is no higher priority than the 
			public safety mission. The first authority kind of enables this by 
			enabling specific devices that are customized for the FirstNet 
			experience, as well as applications. It actually has an application 
			developer program as well.
 
 One part of the mission that we are highly focused on is the 
			resiliency of that network and the network resources needed not just 
			on any normal day, but when you have that disaster impacting a lot 
			of the infrastructure. In those cases, we have extended our network 
			to take advantage of other resources. We have cell towers on light 
			trucks that are mobile that are placed and then integrate seamlessly 
			with the network. There's also some early work with drones to 
			provide coverage. We're not just looking at tactically, we look at 
			it strategically.
 
 Laurel: Part of this need for first responder innovation is because 
			of the changes of climate and the pressures with environmental 
			challenges that are being seen, not just here in North America, but 
			around the world.
 
 Raj: Yeah, our network resiliency is one of those implicit goals for 
			our network design and particularly for the public safety mission. 
			We've been looking at a lot of historical data, natural disasters 
			and the impacts, but also modeling for future and modeling in the 
			future risks driven by climate change, where you can have events 
			with a high wind, three-foot floods or higher. And what does that 
			mean for the network? Where should we design and make design 
			changes? Where would we build the next generation of cell towers? 
			And how do you ensure an overall resiliency under those conditions?
 
 So that is an important part of the mission and we're thinking about 
			network design and architectures. It is really not even for the next 
			three years. We are thinking about the next 20 and 50 years. Network 
			investments take a long time, and we want to make those investments 
			with economics in mind, but also very much ensuring the most 
			reliable network offering.
 
 Laurel: You mentioned artificial intelligence and machine learning 
			in a previous answer. What are some ways that AT&T is using AI and 
			ML, or thinking about deploying artificial intelligence?
 
 Raj: Great question and also a very timely one. As a company, we 
			have had researchers working on AI for many years. With the advent 
			of a lot more compute power and a lot more finer grain data, the 
			opportunity has really opened up with the last, I would say, five 
			years. It does play a very significant role at AT&T. Again, we have 
			approached AI in an evolutionary way on how we infuse it.
 
 First, we think about AI as the engine, and the fuel is the data. It 
			begins with how we want to collect data and learn from it. That's 
			where a lot of the machine learning capabilities come in. We have 
			been investing in a lot of big data management capabilities over the 
			past few years, ensuring that those are well exposed to our AI 
			engines. Our chief data officer in particular has worked very hard 
			to establish a democratized ecosystem for both the data and AI 
			capability. There's a step function here in complexity as the amount 
			of data increases, particularly with 5G, and we get kind of finer 
			grain visibility, and we have a lot more intelligent controls to 
			then apply decisions. So, we're taking those steps in that 
			evolutionary way.
 
 Internally we have many use cases, including how we can use AI for 
			planning, functions, AI for design decisions, but also in real time 
			to help our customers, as well as the network, under various 
			scenarios to provide better efficiency, better customer experiences, 
			detect security threats, the threat analytics, as well as how to use 
			feedback loops to constantly optimize the network. So, a lot of use 
			cases across the life cycle.
 
 Laurel: I'm speaking of that focus on security, which is top of mind 
			for most executives these days. But not only security, AI and 
			automation also are playing that really important role for 5G 
			functionality. What other ways is that coming into play right now 
			with the capabilities of 5G?
 
 Raj: Again, this is very timely and a very active work area. Let me 
			give you some context on how we are structured. In thinking about 
			5G, we think about it as day zero, day one, day two. Day zero is the 
			planning activities and forecasting. I can see some natural ways 
			where AI and machine learning can help you through your forecasting. 
			There's your day one, which is actually building and designing your 
			network. You want to do the greatest efficiency. Again, the feedback 
			loops and reinforce learning kind of helps you do that as well as 
			use of deep learning technology to analyze maps and geospatial data, 
			to determine where you want to have buried fiber optics and where 
			you want to place a small cell versus a macro cell. So, there's a 
			lot of the building engineering where we rely heavily on AI, deep 
			learning, and neural networks.
 
 Then there's a lifecycle, which we call day two. In that, there are 
			opportunities, things like energy savings where we are trying to 
			optimize the energy footprint of our equipment. Again, both a 
			corporate priority, but also a societal priority on the carbon 
			footprint. We see great opportunities for economics but also helping 
			the planet.
 
 From a 5G technology perspective itself, there is an opportunity in 
			what we refer to as beamforming. Beamforming is basically optimizing 
			how the actual coverage for consumers is improved to mitigate some 
			of the impacts of fading and path loss. The context-aware 
			beamforming along with what we call MIMO [multiple-input and 
			multiple-output], which is a very efficient way of transmission, 
			requires us to understand where the demand is to determine where the 
			customers who are consuming or using our service are located. We 
			want to be hyper precise in that geolocation to optimize that 
			beamforming. Is the consumer stationary? Is the consumer moving? Is 
			he walking at three miles an hour or riding in a connected car? So 
			that information to guide beamforming is a natural native 5G AI 
			opportunity.
 
 Laurel: That is certainly part of this complex web that companies 
			need to really start thinking about. So, there's an architectural 
			challenge there to bring together cloud computing, edge computing, 
			5G, and then a focus on customer experience. As much as you have 
			customers, you're also quite concerned about your customers’ 
			customers and how they're experiencing these products.
 
 Raj: Yes. While we have a direct relationship with consumers, in 
			many cases, it is a B2B2C where we have a relationship with a 
			connected car company, and then they'll have relationship with the 
			consumer. Or we would have the relationship with the transportation 
			infrastructure provider, and they would have the relationship with 
			similar other verticals. So that is inherently one of the 
			opportunities that we are able to drive from this architecture.
 
 One of those capabilities is what we refer to as network APIs. We 
			derive intelligence from our network and then make it available by 
			APIs from that cloud infrastructure to an application platform for 
			them to further optimize for their unique applications and their 
			consumers. It's an emerging area, and it does require 
			standardization. There's going to be many steps that we've got to 
			mature this. We are pretty excited, and the early results tell us 
			that the overall ecosystem is very hungry for the type of analytics 
			and data to optimize those end user experiences.
 
 Laurel: The cloud has played such a pivotal role for numerous 
			industries to build that kind of resiliency that we've been 
			threading through this conversation, but then also drive innovation. 
			When you think about, and you mentioned not just the next three to 
			five years, for the next 30 to 50 years, in a smaller scope, what 
			technological advancements excite you the most? What's on that 
			horizon?
 
 Raj: First I think we've benefited from a few of the industry, I'll 
			call them, laws. Certainly, Moore's Law, that we all enjoy increased 
			computing power at lower costs, effectively where we are with growth 
			in storage and cloud capabilities.
 
 Then there's the other part, which is the demand part—the consumer 
			appetite for increased consumption. Some of it is behavioral. Some 
			of it is autonomous as they adopt devices with higher resolution. 
			Effectively that drives the consumption both downlink and uplink.
 
 Trends that I'm following and I'm expecting to be the drivers for 
			the future is first, like I mentioned earlier, we are expecting 
			usage to increase five-fold in five years. While I don't have a 
			crystal ball quite beyond the next five years, I don't see any 
			reason why that wouldn't continue, particularly bi-directional 
			communication, especially with those immersive VR/AR [virtual 
			reality/augmented reality] experiences. The number of connected 
			devices and devices just around us, whether it's variables in our 
			automobile, in our home, is going to double or triple. We expect 
			that trend to also drive effectively the quality of our lives and 
			really operating in every phase of our day.
 
 I see sensors increasing, and I think not just in the home, but also 
			in smart cities and in the public domain. And a seamless opportunity 
			between our home, work, transportation, and places that we visit. So 
			it's going to be increasingly driving that seamless experiences that 
			I'm excited about. It is going to be an exciting future.
 
 Laurel: It sure is. Thank you so much, Raj, for joining us on the 
			Business Lab.
 
 Raj: Thank you, Laurel.
 
 Laurel: That was Raj Savoor, the vice president of network analytics 
			and automation at AT&T Labs, who I spoke with from Cambridge, 
			Massachusetts, the home of MIT and MIT Technology Review, 
			overlooking the Charles River.
 
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